Monday, December 1, 2008

IHL Refix information

The IHL committee has set Sunday, December 14 as the date for refixes to take place after the weekend saw many casualties to the weather and confirmed that the abandoned matches between Cookstown and Annadale and Monkstown against Lisnagarvey will be replayed in their entirity.

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thats unfortunate as the boys under 18 irish trils are that day...

Anonymous said...

if ur good enough to play ihl then you should be selected for u18 simple. unless ur with a so called weeker club that carries a few spuds on the team.

Anonymous said...

thats a ridiculous comment!

Anonymous said...

Its an interesting one IHL v Ireland u18. I expect the branch will have to move the u18 trial.

Anonymous said...

and leinster senior cup games?

Anonymous said...

does this include the rovers fingal match? as it had been agreed that this match would be played mid-January.

Anonymous said...

This is a joke. The IHL is run under the same rules as the EHL.
Rule D.6 of the EHL rules states that games that have been interupted,'that match must be resumed as soon as possible, not necessarily on the same field of play, or on the same day',. This means that both the Cookstown Annadale would continue for the time not played, but more importantly with the scoreline at 4 - 1 to Annadale. The same would apply to the Monkstown Garvey game with three quarters of the game to play at 1 - 0 to Monkstown. What are the names of the people on the IHL committee ? It seems that as usual the IHA(through
the IHL) are making up the rules as they go along !

Anonymous said...

The Irish hockey association is a joke!Who is responsible for the whole thing? What an absolute mess.You may aswell throw the blue fixture book out at the start of the season there's so many changes and re-fixes.

David said...

i don't understand the fuss. IHA a joke etc etc.
yes it's a tight schedule but that's that.
i do feel for Annadale who clearly had that game in the bag at cookstown.

Anonymous said...

yeah, when exactly are they supposed to play the refixed games?

in leinster teams have so many cups to worry about, look at Rovers who have Neville, Mills, ISC, EHL, IHL, indoor league, European indoor and Leinster senior league.

The amount of hockey there, that would seem a more pressing issue rather than questioning the IHA's organisational skills.

Queso said...

Fantastic interpretation of the rules anonymous!!!

I'm jealous I didn't spot that one myself... you're absolutely correct :-)

If the IHL is following EHL format and rules (D.6) to the letter, then the interrupted matches should resume from the point in time (and scoreline) they were stopped at.

Monkstown and Annadale have a resonable case here.

However, as EHL is a tournament format (over a weekend) and not league programme (over a season) this might be their get-out.

Anonymous said...

Queso is a legend, he should be on the IHA committee!!!

Anonymous said...

If anybody read the origional IHL rules, it states that abandoned games must be replayed in their entirity, so therefore those who are saying that the IHA make the rules up as they go along are incorrect!! It's jsut bad luck to annadale and monkstown, who will probaly not get those scorelines again, and good fortune for garvey and cookstown.

Anonymous said...

Queso, you should do a weekly article, legend information!

Queso said...

Surprise, surprise but I did read the IHL rules!!! Here's the actual wording from the IHL Guidance Notes:

2.1 Interruption of Match
If the umpires decide to interrupt a match for inclement weather or safety reasons the match must be re-arranged through the IHL Administration Committee. Every effort should be made to play the game on the date arranged.

In EHL rules format this would mean the re-arranged match continues from the time and scoreline it was abandoned at.

However, the IHL does contain a caveat in the Rules & Regulations reserving the right to adopt all or partly the EHL format. So this is their get-out clause.

Anonymous said...

Just from a common sense point of view, if a game has to be continued surely the same squad used on the day would need to be used which may not always be possible a few weeks after the event due to injuries etc. Logistically, it may make it difficult to ensure the same squads make it to the game.

The EHL, as a one weekend tournament, will find this easier as they have to attempt to rearrange the game on the same weekend and with travelling teams, all there players are guaranteed to be there.

Anonymous said...

People are saying the same squads should be used because cookstown were missing andy barbour and keith black. They would make a big difference!!

Anonymous said...

A shocking decision by the IHL committee. They have accepted most of the EHL rules so why does the EHL interrupted match rule not apply. I cannot understand why Monkstown and Annadale have not appealed this unjust decision.
Come on Management Board over-rule the decision of your IHL committee.
Am I alone in my opinion?

Anonymous said...

This really highlights the incompetencies in the IHA.. Aparently the pitch was STARTING to freeze at cookstown, was not dangerous and the mist wasnt bad enough to have the game called off, obviously cookstown were happy to have the game abandoned but the final quarter really should have gone ahead. It beggs the question who in the hell thought it was a good idea to hold this match at 6pm in the middle of winter, have these people never been to cookstown before? were they expecting tropical conditions? At the end of the day cookstown were well beaten, and the umpires should be held accountable for this terrible decision.

Anonymous said...

ask colin hutchinson and even bolger.. they will tell you different about the pitch.. lets just let the hockey do the talking for once

Anonymous said...

who said "appaerntly the pitch at cookstown was starting to freeze"??

the pitch WAS frozen, the fog was bad enough so that the keepers couldnt see each other, and any aerial ball was lost in the fog!!

also, if u had of been at the game, Andy Smyth told his captain "hammers" to shake hands with cookstowns captain "hutchy".

the decision was, that if the pitch was in the same condition at the start of the game , than in the 3rd quarter, the game wouldnt have been played...

fact
fact
fact
fact

i was there.
yes, very harsh on annadale but is cookstown v raphoe gona be played from when it was stopped?? no, are cookstown gona have a lead against raphoe??? no

why... cause its the rules.

if annadale are so good, come beat cookstown again.

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Anonymous said...

an I just clear a few things up...as an Annadale person at the game I can categorically state that there is NO BLAME AT ALL proportioned to Cookstown for the matter last week. Annadales issues are with the IHL and the IHA regarding the lack of clarity in the rules. Yes as people have said it is a "rule" but as it stands it is open to a tremendous amount of abuse. Cookstown could be 4-1 up with 5mins to go vs Pembroke in Dublin when the floodlights mysteriously "fail"...as the current rule stands it is replayed!! Also I can also state that apart from one 'lone voice'our view is that Cookstown were NOT outplayed at all. We were very lucky to still be in the game...however the comment regarding the PC...it hit Hutchy on the foot in the circle...pretty nailed on I am afraid. Looking forward to going up there again this weekend. Just hope Cookstown arent out more expense this weekend and the IHL allow games to be played with a "skeleton" format regard food, programme etc afterwards.